Tuesday, May 26, 2009

Sophisticated theology

For an example of modern "sophisticated" theology, see this example of mind-numbing philoso-babble. I have to grant the author one point: he cleverly escapes the New Atheist critique of religion by offering no actual content whatsoever.


  1. bb,

    I offered no content because in that post I was simply giving the structural side to a larger argument. The structures themselves are fairly content-less without their corresponding embodiments (I linked to Fowler for his definitions of those).

    But I don't define faith or God or religion in the abstract because all that does is privileges one level or another.

    The way I'm going about it I think is more concrete--in answer to the questions about what is faith or what is God I would answer that you first have to look at the classic forms. About how people actually live these out and define them both historically and currently. I then think it is legitimate to make an argument that they follow (generally) a set of patterns.

    There is no one faith then. Nor one understanding of God. It does get out of (or maybe under) the New Atheist critique but not in the way you think it does.

  2. I dunno, Chris. It sounds like bullshit to me. <shrugs>

  3. I don't have the stamina to read that crap. Fowler's stages of faith? Kinda like Kübler-Ross's stages of grief, or the AA 12 steps.

    It's all just made up. There is just no reason to believe any of it.

  4. I hope you at least read my comments. ;-)

  5. I do not think "evidence" means what you think it means.That's golden.

  6. I stole the line from The Princess Bride.



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